muscle groups and reps

Rex	muscle groups and reps escrito 21 de junio de 2007 14:02
de: Abbekås Posts: 504 Miembro: 22	Hi! We got a question from a swedish member who wants us to change the order of wich you enter reps and weight. Currently the order of the form is first reps then weight when you enter a set. He also wants to add a new musclegroup: "gluteus", "ass", "bottom" or whatever you may call it. Currently we are logging those excercises under the category legs. Any opinions? --- Shapelink Admin ----

woody116	Re: muscle groups and reps escrito 26 de junio de 2007 21:27
de: Illinois Posts: 25 Miembro: 6227	either way works for me, regarding the order of entering reps and weight. I dont work my glutes, other than squats I guess. So, that makes no difference to me at all.

Rex	Re: muscle groups and reps escrito 6 de julio de 2007 15:27
de: Abbekås Posts: 504 Miembro: 22	Okey. We will look into it and se if there will be any change. Thanks --- Shapelink Admin ----

garyward	Re: muscle groups and reps escrito 9 de julio de 2007 11:28
de: Melbourne Posts: 11 Miembro: 15386	As I see it the legs are attached to the bum, so the way it works now is fine aussie!

Abbe81	Re: muscle groups and reps escrito 10 de julio de 2007 12:08
de: Södertälje Posts: 64 Miembro: 13343	I agree with the privious comment. Its either way, but if you think about it there arnt many exercises that just train the bottom... You usualy do some exercise that does some strain on the legs to and those you already have in yuor database.. but do as you please ;)

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Re: muscle groups and reps escrito 3 de noviembre de 2008 08:06

de: Rochdale
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It is tons better to split up as many muscle groups as possible. Strictly speaking no exercise completely isolates a certain muscle, They always have some form of compound structure even on isolation machines. So saying there are no exercises that "Just" train glutes is a bit of a weid comment. There are exercsies which primarily target glutes. I understand why this swedish person wants this because i myself don't train all legs on the same day as it stunts growth as apposed to actually splitting up hams, Glutes, Calves from Quads ect.... More rest = More growth and better results. Always remember that it is EXTREMELY important to split your muscle groups up properly to effectively train yourself :D

Live For The Burn!

quilling	Re: muscle groups and reps escrito 4 de noviembre de 2008 22:15
de: Örebro Posts: 108 Miembro: 25251	I have also by mistake writen the numbers wrong so I agree that the best order is to have weight first, and then reps. But it really doesnt matter that much. Whats more important in my opinion is to change it so you dont have to write the weight for the exercise in every set you do. [ Cambiado por quilling 2008-11-05 19:31 ]

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Re: Re: muscle groups and reps escrito 5 de noviembre de 2008 06:59

de: Dauphin
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Whats more important in my opinion is to change it so you dont have to write the weight for the exercise in every set you do.

I disagree with that. I pyramid just about every exercise so I (and many other lifters) will need to enter different weights on each set for a given exercise. And even if the UI was changed to default the remainder of the sets, should it default 1, 2, 3? If it defaulted too many for what you actually did, then you'd have to delete the values in the latter sets. I think it's fine just the way it is. It's been that way since the beginning, I don't see the reason for a change. Changing it now would just confuse everyone using it the way it is.

BigMountainFreerider	Re: muscle groups and reps escrito 5 de noviembre de 2008 19:07
de: Luleå Posts: 142 Miembro: 36015	In Sweden we usually knows best: regardless of what the rest of the world thinks. Just give it up and adapt to the swedish guy.

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Re: Re: Re: muscle groups and reps escrito 5 de noviembre de 2008 19:24

de: Örebro
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Whats more important in my opinion is to change it so you dont have to write the weight for the exercise in every set you do. I disagree with that. I pyramid just about every exercise so I (and many other lifters) will need to enter different weights on each set for a given exercise. And even if the UI was changed to default the remainder of the sets, should it default 1, 2, 3? If it defaulted too many for what you actually did, then you'd have to delete the values in the latter sets.

That isnt a problem at all if it fills out the weight automaticly after you have saved the exercise. And ofcourse it shouldnt fill out any other sets then those that you have done reps in. It cant confuse anyone since you wont even know its there if you fill in manually for every set.

I think it would be good, it would almost decrease the amount of writing to half when filling out your strength routine.

[ Cambiado por quilling 2008-11-05 19:30 ]

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Re: Re: Re: Re: muscle groups and reps escrito 6 de noviembre de 2008 16:55

de: Dauphin
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Whats more important in my opinion is to change it so you dont have to write the weight for the exercise in every set you do.

I disagree with that. I pyramid just about every exercise so I (and many other lifters) will need to enter different weights on each set for a given exercise. And even if the UI was changed to default the remainder of the sets, should it default 1, 2, 3? If it defaulted too many for what you actually did, then you'd have to delete the values in the latter sets. That isnt a problem at all if it fills out the weight automaticly after you have saved the exercise. And ofcourse it shouldnt fill out any other sets then those that you have done reps in. It cant confuse anyone since you wont even know its there if you fill in manually for every set.

I think it would be good, it would almost decrease the amount of writing to half when filling out your strength routine. [ edited_by quilling 2008-11-05 19:30 ]

Doing it at the point of save I could live with. Because it wouldn't have any effect on existing users. On the other hand, I think it's a nit. And there are a number of other changes I'd like to see made first. 1. Allowing creation of custom measurements 2. Getting the timezone stuff to work correctly so when I hit "Today" at 7pm CST, it doesn't take me to the next day because it's after midnight in Europe. 3. Allow renaming of exercises in your exercise database.

quilling	Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: muscle groups and reps escrito 6 de noviembre de 2008 18:31
de: Örebro Posts: 108 Miembro: 25251	3. Allow renaming of exercises in your exercise database. That already works, just click on the name of the exercise in the database.

DCHammer	Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: muscle groups and reps escrito 7 de noviembre de 2008 22:24
de: Dauphin Posts: 32 Miembro: 25723	That already works, just click on the name of the exercise in the database. Thanks. :D

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Re: Re: muscle groups and reps escrito 14 de enero de 2009 03:07

de: canberra
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HappymanIt is tons better to split up as many muscle groups as possible. Strictly speaking no exercise completely isolates a certain muscle, They always have some form of compound structure even on isolation machines. So saying there are no exercises that "Just" train glutes is a bit of a weid comment. There are exercsies which primarily target glutes. I understand why this swedish person wants this because i myself don't train all legs on the same day as it stunts growth as apposed to actually splitting up hams, Glutes, Calves from Quads ect.... More rest = More growth and better results. Always remember that it is EXTREMELY important to split your muscle groups up properly to effectively train yourself :D

I agree that splitting up into as many muscle groups as possible is the way to go, especially for those of us who aren't (yet) gold members having only 5 moves per muscle group is very limiting. I tried just adding some of my (not in the list) favourites to Other, but this still limits me to 5 moves/exercises.

Having the exercises split into smaller/more muscle groups also assists those who want to work different parts on different days and to be able to distinguish this when checking back on the calendar or reports.

Also the comment re time zones... I am in Australia and if I log in during the morning the diary shows the previous day and not my current day.

Doing something is better than nothing, and nothing is never an option!

DCHammer	Re: muscle groups and reps escrito 21 de enero de 2009 21:22
de: Dauphin Posts: 32 Miembro: 25723	Whip out that credit card. In just minutes you can create all of the exercises you want for a very small annual fee.

DCHammer	Re: muscle groups and reps escrito 25 de enero de 2009 12:30
de: Dauphin Posts: 32 Miembro: 25723	Another thing just occurred to me today. Having a total work value in the graphing would be valuable. Reps x Weight = Total Work This way we can keep track of total weight lifted when we drop weight to do increased reps on certain days.

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